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jolle Aug 4, 2018 03:55 AM

Fortnite for Android Will Bypass Google’s Play Store
 
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/fo...ore,37552.html

Quote:

Epic said that because Apple allows iOS apps to be installed only through the iOS platform, the gaming company had no choice but to offer its game through the iOS App Store.
So Android users will have to enable installing apps from unknown sources and manually download and install the game.

So 2 initial thoughts here.
1: big publishers might follow suit, eventually leading to Google shutting down the ability to install your own apps outside of the play store.

2: a ton of predators descend on this pool of techilliterates trying to get them to install their fake Fortnite apks with God knows what in em.

Destroy Aug 5, 2018 07:23 AM

I don't see Google ignoring this decision for very long.

Open architecture will be a thing of the past.

Galmok Aug 13, 2018 03:44 AM

Google could stop being so greedy. A 30% surcharge just for having the app being sold via Google Play? Absurd. Google has no risk so why the steep surcharge?

Elysian Aug 13, 2018 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Galmok (Post 1338084409)
Google could stop being so greedy. A 30% surcharge just for having the app being sold via Google Play? Absurd. Google has no risk so why the steep surcharge?

Isn't that the same as Apple charges?

Destroy Aug 13, 2018 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Elysian (Post 1338084432)
Isn't that the same as Apple charges?

And Steam.

GTwannabe Aug 13, 2018 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galmok (Post 1338084409)
Google could stop being so greedy. A 30% surcharge just for having the app being sold via Google Play? Absurd. Google has no risk so why the steep surcharge?

You can thank the Great Firewall of China for that. Developer will make most of their free-to-play cash from Chinese whales.

Athena Aug 13, 2018 01:58 PM

How to get Fortnite on your Android phone:
https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/13/1...re-beta-invite

logical Aug 16, 2018 09:49 AM

I couldve sworn fornite was available on android phones since it was released on iOS. Its been on iOS for at least 3 months IIRC.

This is going to open a whole new can of worms for android phones. Top virus makers are salivating at this right now.

Galmok Aug 16, 2018 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Elysian (Post 1338084432)
Isn't that the same as Apple charges?

Just because Apple (and Steam) charge 30%, doesn't make it reasonable. On their respective platforms, they have a monopoly (google less so, as third part options are possible).

I can understand why some want to distribute apps not using those terms.

Elysian Aug 16, 2018 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Galmok (Post 1338085026)
Just because Apple (and Steam) charge 30%, doesn't make it reasonable. On their respective platforms, they have a monopoly (google less so, as third part options are possible).

I can understand why some want to distribute apps not using those terms.

The only reason Fortnite isn't going around Apple is because they can't. They go around Steam, you have to get it direct from Epic for PC, can't get it through Steam. Your anger towards Google is misplaced, it should be towards Apple who gives you no option.

Athena Aug 16, 2018 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by logical (Post 1338085005)
I couldve sworn fornite was available on android phones since it was released on iOS. Its been on iOS for at least 3 months IIRC.

This is going to open a whole new can of worms for android phones. Top virus makers are salivating at this right now.

No worms for android phones only for the brain dead users that can not stop them selves from trying to pirate the game install from some one other than Epic. Then then they deserve what they get.

Got the invite already and game is installed. Just waiting on the official game start invite now. :cool:

logical Aug 16, 2018 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Athena (Post 1338085129)
No worms for android phones only for the brain dead users that can not stop them selves from trying to pirate the game install from some one other than Epic. Then then they deserve what they get.

Got the invite already and game is installed. Just waiting on the official game start invite now. :cool:

Dont be surprised by the number of brain dead users out there.

Eisberg Aug 18, 2018 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroy (Post 1338084433)
And Steam.

and GoG
and Humble

daPhoenix Aug 19, 2018 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Elysian (Post 1338085039)
The only reason Fortnite isn't going around Apple is because they can't.

Do you think Google is going to sit by idly and let companies do this in the future if more big name publishers start bypassing Google Play?

Soon you'll find yourself in a situation where you can no longer install non-store signed applications.

logical Aug 19, 2018 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daPhoenix (Post 1338085606)
Do you think Google is going to sit by idly and let companies do this in the future if more big name publishers start bypassing Google Play?

Soon you'll find yourself in a situation where you can no longer install non-store signed applications.

Can't wait till Google gets its own walled of garden like Apple. :)

GTwannabe Aug 19, 2018 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daPhoenix (Post 1338085606)
Do you think Google is going to sit by idly and let companies do this in the future if more big name publishers start bypassing Google Play?

Soon you'll find yourself in a situation where you can no longer install non-store signed applications.

Amazon app store has been around forever and Google hasn't locked out 3rd party apps.

daPhoenix Aug 20, 2018 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GTwannabe (Post 1338085645)
Amazon app store has been around forever and Google hasn't locked out 3rd party apps.

If they start to see umpteen million dollar deals go by them without any compensation, their attitudes will change.

Business realities took care of don't be evil in the end.

Athena Aug 23, 2018 10:07 AM

If Google wants to keep their OS on hundreds of millions of phones vs OSs like Samsung's, what is it Tisen, and Amazon OS, then they will keep it open. They think bigger picture then one or two video games. Even big video games. Even companies like LG, Sony, Huwaii and the like have been messing around with their own OS's.
Google likes being on all the phones Apple is not on. Big picture. Millions dollar deals are nothing in the light of the billions of dollars Google deals with.

Elysian Aug 23, 2018 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daPhoenix (Post 1338085793)
If they start to see umpteen million dollar deals go by them without any compensation, their attitudes will change.

Business realities took care of don't be evil in the end.

Google has allowed phones to sideload apps since the very beginning, why would that change now, 9 versions in?

logical Aug 23, 2018 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Elysian (Post 1338086706)
Google has allowed phones to sideload apps since the very beginning, why would that change now, 9 versions in?

The same reason anything big changes.... money.

Elysian Aug 23, 2018 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by logical (Post 1338086726)
The same reason anything big changes.... money.

I'll believe it when they announce it.

daPhoenix Aug 23, 2018 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Elysian (Post 1338086777)
I'll believe it when they announce it.

I'm sure people said the same about Windows back in the day and how they would never consider locking applications in a walled garden like Apple.

And behold, Microsoft Store is just the first step. Eventually Windows will turn into PaaS and many important applications will be made store only, quoting "security" issues.

Elysian Aug 23, 2018 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daPhoenix (Post 1338086798)
I'm sure people said the same about Windows back in the day and how they would never consider locking applications in a walled garden like Apple.

And behold, Microsoft Store is just the first step. Eventually Windows will turn into PaaS and many important applications will be made store only, quoting "security" issues.

I'll believe it when they announce it.

CurrentlyPissed Aug 24, 2018 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by logical (Post 1338086726)
The same reason anything big changes.... money.

Not alot of things google does for "money". Their forte isn't exactly the evil empire that swings their decisions by money. They have enough, and enough flowing in. Sideloading is one of Androids strongest, if not the strongest point.

I think it'll stay.

logical Aug 24, 2018 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlyPissed (Post 1338087011)
Not alot of things google does for "money". Their forte isn't exactly the evil empire that swings their decisions by money. They have enough, and enough flowing in. Sideloading is one of Androids strongest, if not the strongest point.

I think it'll stay.

Never said they were evil. But all companies that high are about money. Too much money is never enough money for them. You damn well know they got their best number crunchers looking at the market everyday and seeing whats happening and providing numbers to the top. When that breaking point hits where those side apps are really taking a chunk out of profits is when they will move. Right now there arent too many huge apps going the side loading route but Fortnite may set a precedence with how big it is. Other people will start to take notice and do the same.

Same deal with digital games on PC. Everyone was on steam now the big boys are putting in the work and locking players into their own system so they dont have to pay steams cut to put out their game.

I agree that sideloading and not having that walled garden is one of googles biggest assets as well.

GTwannabe Aug 24, 2018 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by logical (Post 1338086726)
The same reason anything big changes.... money.

Google isn't going to upend their whole business model for a flash-in-the-pan fad like Fortnite. People only play Fortnite because it's a free-to-play clone of the PUBG fad. Most of the mobile Fortnite players will be from China where Google Play is banned anyway.

logical Aug 24, 2018 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTwannabe (Post 1338087127)
Google isn't going to upend their whole business model for a flash-in-the-pan fad like Fortnite. People only play Fortnite because it's a free-to-play clone of the PUBG fad. Most of the mobile Fortnite players will be from China where Google Play is banned anyway.

That is why I said its going to take a whole slew of very popular apps to skip the play store before anything happens. That is the breaking point when, if ever, they will do it.

Elysian Aug 25, 2018 09:29 AM

Epic's first Fortnite Installer allowed hackers to download and install anything on your Android phone silently and Google found it

:lol:

A2597 Aug 25, 2018 11:28 AM

Played some, have to say. It doesn't translate well to phone imho.
PuBG did it better, but doesnt have to worry about building, so fewer controls to mess with.

Notbilly Aug 25, 2018 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by logical (Post 1338085005)
... This is going to open a whole new can of worms for android phones. Top virus makers are salivating at this right now.

Well, that didn't take long


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