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konjini Mar 20, 2020 06:15 PM

I'm not sure but I belief driver team is on our side Crawdaddy79
20.3.1 AMD driver.

Same Project did less then 1000000 , with the <20.2.3 driver.
Saw same gains with nVidia.

But on my newest rigs I have awakened from spare parts .
A AMD card slot is asking for nVidia to be present.
And had a nVidia slot ask to have OpenGL enabled.
WTF is going on.

Crawdaddy79 Mar 20, 2020 06:32 PM

^ Interesting that after having this card for a year, new drivers have made no difference that I need until 20.3.1 :lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkFoss (Post 1338182920)
The Estimated TPF of Project 14308= 27.00 secs :eek:

I know the Vega is faster than a Fiji but 6 min faster [email protected]#?!

That was actually the Ryzen 2700X posting that TPF. Feel better? :D

Edit: just hit 1.11M PPD with the GPU alone on Proj 11779. For DarkFoss, TPF is 57.0 sec.

konjini Mar 20, 2020 06:40 PM

LOL never mind the WTF is going on, some part was faulty .
I just heard a PUFFFF, I looked to the side.
And the Monitor went black and fans started spinning down slowly :cry:
Press F

konjini Mar 20, 2020 06:47 PM

Feeling the parts on heat,
Seems the power supply couldn't handle the load.

Did last me 5+ years though :) .

DarkFoss Mar 20, 2020 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crawdaddy79 (Post 1338182928)
^ Interesting that after having this card for a year, new drivers have made no difference that I need until 20.3.1 :lol:



That was actually the Ryzen 2700X posting that TPF. Feel better? :D

Edit: just hit 1.11M PPD with the GPU alone on Proj 11779. For DarkFoss, TPF is 57.0 sec.

Whoops should have looked it up first. :embarrassed:
I tried both the cpu and gpu on the 16th :
Cpu
Project: 14328 (Run 8, Clone 5222, Gen 7) TPF was around 2min 20sec
Gpu
Project: 11750 (Run 0, Clone 7438, Gen 0) TPF was around 1min 40sec

So in an Odd way I do feel slightly better. It also explains why when I looked at your results MC Hammer's Can't touch this popped into my head. :lol:

DarkFoss Mar 20, 2020 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by konjini (Post 1338182932)
LOL never mind the WTF is going on, some part was faulty .
I just heard a PUFFFF, I looked to the side.
And the Monitor went black and fans started spinning down slowly :cry:
Press F

Quote:

Originally Posted by konjini (Post 1338182933)
Feeling the parts on heat,
Seems the power supply couldn't handle the load.

Did last me 5+ years though :) .

Sorry to hear that. :( I hope it didn't take anything else out with it!

Crawdaddy79 Mar 20, 2020 09:24 PM

Ole Gregor has buried me. I'm not sure what's going on - everything produced by my desktop today has not contributed to my score.

Ever since adding a passkey, my Web Control reset to zero, and was not updating with my desktop uploads, but did update with my laptop uploads.

The stats page on ExtremeOverclocking seemed to be updating with laptop uploads (not reset to zero, though). I'm about 500k points less than I should be.

After closing/re-opening the client it auto-logged me in as Anonymous. I fixed that, restarted the client, restarted my PC, made sure my info was saved in the client, and all seems to be well.

You have a shoestring loose, Gregor. I think I can grab it now. Best of luck to your face.

Gregor976 Mar 21, 2020 09:34 AM

That shoestring was a trap. :manches:

Crawdaddy79 Mar 21, 2020 10:30 AM

Yeah no kidding. Pulling it apparently unleashed your rocket boosters. See you at the middle-top of the ladder, sir.

Edit: For context, here is how we currently stack up:


konjini Mar 21, 2020 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkFoss (Post 1338182950)
Sorry to hear that. :( I hope it didn't take anything else out with it!

It appeared fine, got a new cheap 650watts B-brand PSU.
Got into windows and 10 minutes furmark.
It did the same after 10-15 minutes run PUUUF,
looks like the system is pulling to much for weak & cheap PSU.

konjini Mar 21, 2020 04:36 PM

Thrown a RECOM 600w from my media-box, and voila.
Kicking ass, and stable like a rock, even pushing the CPU I'm not gone fold at.
Ewent PSU, ending on my blacklist :mad:

https://imgur.com/QZeAj3A
https://imgur.com/v36Grq5

TheEmrys Mar 22, 2020 01:02 PM

Returned to fold. Stupid virus. Holy cow, the points have really gone up. Poor How???. So much work he did in the bad old days.

Crawdaddy79 Mar 22, 2020 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheEmrys (Post 1338183327)
Returned to fold. Stupid virus. Holy cow, the points have really gone up. Poor How???. So much work he did in the bad old days.

Yep. Using a passkey nets you bonus points after 10 WU to the tune of about 3 - 10x the base points, depending on how quickly you return the results.

I had two PCs folding nonstop for almost two years in 2004-6 and I doubled my points in one day this week. Now that I'm getting bonuses, completing 1 big WU adds more points than I earned over the two years.

globalist Mar 22, 2020 04:25 PM

Is there really a point to folding these days? Don't they have ridiculous power in supercomputers/ASICs dedicated to this research?

Android1 Mar 22, 2020 05:33 PM

Globalist, according to the project's FAQ, supercomputers are not enough.

Quote:

Originally Posted by [email protected] FAQ
Modern supercomputers are essentially clusters of hundreds of processors linked by fast networking. The speed of these processors is comparable to (and often slower than) those found in PCs! Supercomputers are not only very expensive to operate, but they are often simultaneously shared by many different research groups, and it is a challenge to scale a molecular simulation to all of their processors. Protein folding dynamics is statistical in nature, so a single long simulation from a supercomputer would not be sufficient to fully understand the folding process. [email protected] is one of the most powerful computing systems on the planet, and we use novel methods to utilize its network to statistically analyse the dynamics of protein folding. Hence, the calculations performed on [email protected] would not be possible by any other means! This is possible since PC processors are now very fast and there are hundreds of millions of PCs sitting idle in the world.


globalist Mar 22, 2020 05:40 PM

Isn't that FAQ like 10 years old and very much outdated in this regard? I can't imagine scientists are not throwing all the CPU power of their supercomputeters at Covid-19 right now, and are instead relying on GPU enthusiasts?

Android1 Mar 22, 2020 06:18 PM

To be honest with you, I do not know how old the information in the FAQ is, nor do I know exactly how supercomputer resources are being allocated right now. However, what I do know is that the [email protected] project is performing important coronavirus/COVID-19 research, and contributing to it is a worthwhile endeavor.

Android1 Mar 22, 2020 06:59 PM

Also, the total computing power of the [email protected] network is greater than the top seven supercomputers in the world combined.

The [email protected] network has been working hard to defeat COVID-19 (coronavirus). This battle has caused the network to pass some interesting milestones as result of renewed interest in folding for a cure or vaccine. The [email protected] network now boasts 470 PetaFLOPS of compute power and is more powerful than the world’s top 7 supercomputers. [email protected] is a “distributed computing” project. It was started by Dr. Vijay Pande at Stanford University and is now based at the Washington University in St. Louis School of Medicine. The project relies on the processing power of volunteer personal devices that process “different portions of data” simultaneously. The [email protected] team contends that this approach can “significantly accelerate our research” and it has allowed them to publish over 223 research papers as a result.

At the beginning of March, [email protected] was pushing out about 98.7 PetaFLOPS of compute power. This was an impressive number, but it paled in comparison to supercomputers like the Summit supercomputer at the Oak Ridge National Laboratory (ORNL). The [email protected] output is now at 470 PetaFLOPS. [email protected] is now not only more powerful than Summit, but is more powerful than the top seven supercomputers combined. Summit boasts 149 PetaFLOPS while the six next fastest supercomputers do not break 100 PetaFLOPS.


Source: HotHardware

Turbo_Rage3d_ Mar 22, 2020 11:04 PM

Hello All!! Great to see people folding again. Just wish I could get consistent projects now. My ppd has taken a huge hit. Great to see everyone getting involved again.

DarkFoss Mar 23, 2020 09:01 AM

Hiya Turbo, I'm sure they are fast tracking projects out of beta as best they can.

Has anyone else noticed a new team member named Fireanimal? His/her numbers are quite impressive. Started folding on St. Pattys day, popped up on my threat list Saturday. He's on everyone's now except for Jima13.

All I can say is Thank you for joining us. :fold:

globalist Mar 23, 2020 09:33 AM

Can someone post here a quick step-by-step guide what exactly to download, setup, etc. to start folding for Covid-19? Many thanks!

TheEmrys Mar 23, 2020 09:57 AM

Anyone else getting the client hanging on downloading? Happened overnight for me, and now today the CPU is going along, and the GPU is stuck trying to download.

Crawdaddy79 Mar 23, 2020 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by globalist (Post 1338183505)
Can someone post here a quick step-by-step guide what exactly to download, setup, etc. to start folding for Covid-19? Many thanks!

Go here: https://foldingathome.org/start-folding/

Install the client.

When it asks you who you are, use whatever name you want. The Rage3D team ID is 64.

Once things seem up and running, go to https://apps.foldingathome.org/getpasskey and get your passkey generated.

On the icon in the status bar, right click it and get Advanced Control. Under Configure, Identity you enter your passkey. Doing this gets you mega bonus points.

Any further questions, let us know.

TheEmrys Mar 23, 2020 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crawdaddy79 (Post 1338183512)
Go here: https://foldingathome.org/start-folding/

Install the client.

When it asks you who you are, use whatever name you want. The Rage3D team ID is 64.

Once things seem up and running, go to https://apps.foldingathome.org/getpasskey and get your passkey generated.

On the icon in the status bar, right click it and get Advanced Control. Under Configure, Identity you enter your passkey. Doing this gets you mega bonus points.

Any further questions, let us know.

Sorry. Wrong post reply. wow.

Crawdaddy79 Mar 23, 2020 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheEmrys (Post 1338183511)
Anyone else getting the client hanging on downloading? Happened overnight for me, and now today the CPU is going along, and the GPU is stuck trying to download.

Check out the slowdowns thread. In the Advanced Client you can follow along the logfile and see what it's actually doing. It's common to get "No WUs available for this configuration."

Each time it reaches out and gets rejected, it extends the amount of time it will wait to reach out again. You can reset the extension by pausing/unpausing the client. Some have had better luck shutting the client down entirely and starting it.

globalist Mar 23, 2020 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crawdaddy79 (Post 1338183512)
Once things seem up and running, go to https://apps.foldingathome.org/getpasskey and get your passkey generated.

On the icon in the status bar, right click it and get Advanced Control. Under Configure, Identity you enter your passkey. Doing this gets you mega bonus points.

Any further questions, let us know.

Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for!

OK, so I have now installed the thing but

1. client doesn't seem to be doing any folding
2. I still haven't received my passkey in my email

Any advice?

Crawdaddy79 Mar 23, 2020 10:26 AM

We're all having issues getting work units from the servers. They're tapped out from the rush of people since COVID started.

For the passkey, it took about ten minutes for me. Check the spam folder. Past that, I can't help.

globalist Mar 23, 2020 10:58 AM

Welp I had to uninstall this. Despite not having any real WUs, the client was working both my CPU and GPU quite hard until my screen completely froze and I had to hard reboot my PC. I had to do this twice because upon next login the same thing happened. The last login before I uninstalled went fine, weirdly but fortunately, or else I'd have had to use a rescue CD.

Looks like my old CPU is not up to this task. :(

TheEmrys Mar 23, 2020 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crawdaddy79 (Post 1338183520)
We're all having issues getting work units from the servers. They're tapped out from the rush of people since COVID started.

For the passkey, it took about ten minutes for me. Check the spam folder. Past that, I can't help.

Okay then. I guess I can just let it work.

Crawdaddy79 Mar 23, 2020 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by globalist (Post 1338183528)
Looks like my old CPU is not up to this task. :(

:(


In my hardware department, now that I have plenty of time to dick around with my computer, I've learned something very valuable.

My PSU has an automagic variable fan speed, so I haven't been worried about it because it's never been loud. Well, I learned that the fan is not controlled by temperature, but instead by load. My PC measures at about 450W at full CPU/GPU load. The PSU is rated for 750W, so due to the "low" load, the fans aren't spinning as much as they need to.

I did the highly technical and scientific test of hanging a piece of cellophane over the exhaust of the PSU and watched it as my PC fans increased. Cellophane gradually lowered to barely vibrating, and then it was stuck flat when the Vega hit 76C. I loosened the side of my case to let more air in, and the cellophane reflected that more air flow is needed. Hopefully the PSU is not too badly damaged.


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