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Ally Mar 17, 2020 02:49 PM

Hi there, I haven't folded for years, but Coronavirus has got me started again.

Fired up all sorts of computers and got a couple of video cards in there as well, nothing fancy though, RX460 and a 1050GTX

RX460 is getting 101,000 PPD, 1050GTX is getting 190,000 PPD

Got an old i7-6700HQ laptop that is getting 27,000 PPD - Pulling 35W

Son's new laptlop with i5-8265 is getting 22,000 PPD and only pulling 15W

Ally

jima13 Mar 17, 2020 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ally (Post 1338182110)
Hi there, I haven't folded for years, but Coronavirus has got me started again.

Fired up all sorts of computers and got a couple of video cards in there as well, nothing fancy though, RX460 and a 1050GTX

RX460 is getting 101,000 PPD, 1050GTX is getting 190,000 PPD

Got an old i7-6700HQ laptop that is getting 27,000 PPD - Pulling 35W

Son's new laptlop with i5-8265 is getting 22,000 PPD and only pulling 15W

Ally

:fold:

Glad someone is getting work; most of my systems are sitting on 'ready' :(

Lupine Mar 17, 2020 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jima13 (Post 1338182107)
Nice to see you back Charles, but when the heck did you move from Spokane?
:fold:

Thanks Jim. Moved summer of 2018, when my wife accepted a teaching position down here in Grants Pass, OR. Seems like we're on the "stay somewhere for five years" plan. :nuts:

Web Control page (client.foldingathome.org) is stuck in a loading loop. All cores are pushing 100%, so appears to be working, but what's up w/ Web Control?

edit: Loads up in Edge just fine. Chrome is the issue, apparently.



:heart:

YellowBeard Mar 17, 2020 05:40 PM

Welp, haven't folded in forever, but I started it up last night, managed to pick up a WU before I went to bed and ran it all night. Letting the room cool down for a bit after I finished my latest WU for the day and it wasn't connecting to a new one, feel a little bad taking a break, but will kick it back into gear in a few hours here. Sounds like a jet liner when all my fans kick on to cool it down. :lol:

Might pull an old computer out and see if I can get it running on a Steam box. Think that's the OS I have installed on it.

DarkFoss Mar 17, 2020 06:26 PM

Nice reunion going .. Where's 1920x1080i-How??? He's still 4th on the team in work units :hmm:

Lupine Mar 17, 2020 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkFoss (Post 1338182147)
Nice reunion going .. Where's 1920x1080i-How??? He's still 4th on the team in work units :hmm:

I'll yank his chain and see what happens.

MasterGoa Mar 17, 2020 08:57 PM

Haha I remember 1920 from wayyyyyyy back. He was also in RC5...

Can you fold CPU and GPU at the same time?

cbsboyer Mar 17, 2020 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MasterGoa (Post 1338182164)
Haha I remember 1920 from wayyyyyyy back. He was also in RC5...

Can you fold CPU and GPU at the same time?

I'm folding on a CPU and 2 GPUs right now...when I can get work units.

Crawdaddy79 Mar 17, 2020 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterGoa (Post 1338182164)
Haha I remember 1920 from wayyyyyyy back. He was also in RC5...

Can you fold CPU and GPU at the same time?

Yes - my system is processing two work units simultaneously (sometimes), one for the CPU the other for the GPU.

I remember 1920 x 1080i - How?? from my folding days. I never learned who it actually was, but they were number 1 by a huge margin when I was paying attention. A decade ago. Plus some years.

Ally Mar 18, 2020 06:34 AM

Not seeing any CPU units today, but both my GPU's are running

Quite a bit of variation in work units PPD from yesterday

RX460 is at 130,000 PPD
1050GTX is at 171,000 PPD

Loser-P Mar 18, 2020 12:23 PM

It's great to see everyone paying attention to this project again.

Too bad there isn't enough work to go around at the moment though. My computer has been sitting idle for the last couple days. After a while it only checks for work 4 times a day and it's not finding any when it does look.

I guess I should pause then unpause it every so often so it'll keep looking for work more often.

Crawdaddy79 Mar 18, 2020 01:55 PM

My Vega 64 keeps blowing up. I like its performance but FFS does it run hot. Until I started this, putting my case fans at max was enough to keep it stable. I suppose it's never run at 100% utilization for two hours straight before.

The problem is when it crashes due to heat, the GPU fans kick on to max while everything else shuts down. It stays like that until I power cycle the PC. I am not comfortable leaving this running when I'm out of the house, so when (if) telework ever ends, my stats are going to slow or stop.

Anyway I delved into the advanced fan tuning - fans kick to 100% at 75C. We'll see how this goes...

Crawdaddy79 Mar 18, 2020 07:32 PM


YellowBeard Mar 18, 2020 10:07 PM

Feels good to see the Coronavirus Project down there. :3


Also that's what they get for using my slow ass 4 year old CPU. Ugh, well, least it's doing work!

gamefoo21 Mar 19, 2020 11:22 AM

Wow my Core 2 Quad munches faster than that... heh

Edit:

Xeon E5440 4/4 @ 3.4Ghz: 2,869PPD <- Basically a C2Q 9650
Radeon 560 @ 1.3/1.9: 44,669PPD <- It's a 1024 piper 4GB edition, designed to only draw power from the PCI-e slot

i7 8750H 6/6 @ 2Ghz: 4,752->1,830PPD <- Notebook load balancing ftl! but AVX256 ftw!
Quadro P2000M stock: 32,703PPD <- Seems the COVID-19 research is either CPU or CUDA only

I'm using my work machine to fold as it's my only NV machine I have access too at the moment.

If not getting WU's I found, hitting Pause, wait a minute, then hitting finish in the advanced control seems to have the best chance of getting WUs. Since it seems to force the system to re-register the system.

Crawdaddy79 Mar 19, 2020 11:56 AM

Well, I'm about to throw my video card through my neighbor's brick wall. I've pulled enough hair out of my head trying to keep it from crashing (and then corrupting the WU it's been working on, getting rejected by the server). I still assume it's heat related.

Going to run it on my CPU only. We'll be missing out on 120,000 PPD but we've been missing out on that anyway.

gamefoo21 Mar 19, 2020 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Crawdaddy79 (Post 1338182500)
Well, I'm about to throw my video card through my neighbor's brick wall. I've pulled enough hair out of my head trying to keep it from crashing (and then corrupting the WU it's been working on, getting rejected by the server). I still assume it's heat related.

Going to run it on my CPU only. We'll be missing out on 120,000 PPD but we've been missing out on that anyway.

Are you running your V64 on any kind of overclock?

Is it a blower monster?

I would really suggest looking at underclocking and undervolting it. The HBM on the 64 should be able to do 900mhz at 0.900V. I'd pull the core back to 1.1 or even 1.0Ghz. just to see if simply dropping the clocks helps it. Vega 56/64 were always best when you could slightly underclock them and undervolt them appropriately.

That would be my suggestion. It really sounds like it desperately needs a repaste/cleaning.

Crawdaddy79 Mar 19, 2020 12:14 PM

No overclock. Overnight, I undervolted and underclocked it with the GPU fan tuned to be aggressive. Heat makes sense but I wonder if my PSU isn't showing signs of crapping the bed.

gamefoo21 Mar 19, 2020 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Crawdaddy79 (Post 1338182507)
No overclock. Overnight, I undervolted and underclocked it with the GPU fan tuned to be aggressive. Heat makes sense but I wonder if my PSU isn't showing signs of crapping the bed.

That's very possible, it may not be appreciating the sustained loads, and it struggles to keep up.

How old and what kind of PSU is it?

DarkFoss Mar 19, 2020 12:30 PM

Upgrade to the new 20.3.1 driver that just showed up. I saved my profile on the tuning page of the Radeon settings then reset them before hitting the update button. After the update I reapplied my profile before restarting FAH.
Running 2c cooler on the same wu. Didn't even need to log out or reboot.

Crawdaddy79 Mar 19, 2020 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gamefoo21 (Post 1338182512)
That's very possible, it may not be appreciating the sustained loads, and it struggles to keep up.

How old and what kind of PSU is it?

15 months old. eVGA G3 Gold 750 Watt.


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Originally Posted by DarkFoss (Post 1338182514)
Upgrade to the new 20.3.1 driver that just showed up. I saved my profile on the tuning page of the Radeon settings then reset them before hitting the update button. After the update I reapplied my profile before restarting FAH.
Running 2c cooler on the same wu. Didn't even need to log out or reboot.

I've been running that for five days. That's what I used to undervolt/underclock and control the fan. With finagling, I can get mine to run at 74C when it's used to running at 78, but it still crashed overnight which is what's leading me away from the GPU overheating being the issue. Except that when it crashes, the fan kicks to max and pushes my tower off my desk (not really), which according to some random people on the internet is a sign the GPU is in self preservation mode. :runaway:

A larger problem is when my case exhaust fans are on low and the GPU fan is 25% or higher, it actually sucks air in through the exhaust fans. The PSU is mounted at the bottom, pushing air out that way. This could be creating an airflow dead zone somewhere over my RAM/north bridge - which would mean it's time for a new case where the PSU is mounted at the top like normal configs.

I'm really not cut out for this.

DarkFoss Mar 19, 2020 01:41 PM

I don't think this driver was out 5 days ago. Are you sure your not on the 20.2.2?
AMD posted it to the website today. Radeon settings reports released on the 17th.

Well I hope it's an air flow issue and not a hardware related issue.

Crawdaddy79 Mar 19, 2020 01:58 PM

I am running 20.2.2. I got the notification and/or noticed the 20.2.2 for the first time five days ago. Another bad assumption.

Also, I misread the idea about the 2C reduction - thought you were talking about the added controls that you could apply to profiles.

I'll give the new drivers a shot when my CPU finishes this core.

On the bright side, my gaming laptop is capable of pushing 50k PPD. The downside is everything the 1060 GPU crunches gets rejected by the server (Message: Server didn't like results. Dumping.).

Gregor976 Mar 19, 2020 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Crawdaddy79 (Post 1338181967)
I'm coming for you, Gregor.


Why you... :D

I would've replied sooner if I hadn't locked myself out. :embarrassed:

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And thanks for your help DarkFoss.

Crawdaddy79 Mar 19, 2020 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregor976 (Post 1338182613)
Why you... :D

I would've replied sooner if I hadn't locked myself out. :embarrassed:

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And thanks for your help DarkFoss.


Hey it looked like you were going to have a real chance at overtaking me until...

(Same from me @ DarkFoss.)

With DarkFoss's suggestions, I downloaded the new beta drivers. Did a clean install. Without baselining, I went ahead and selected the Power Saving preset before starting GPU folding again.

It's been going for five hours now and the GPU hasn't broken 75C. No crashes. I can't put into words the elation I feel when I come downstairs and still see my keyboard lights are still on. I see from the wattage it's pulling (165W -vs 205W) that I was not nearly as aggressive as I needed to be when I underclocked/undervolted it. Even strange is that my GPU PPD has increased by 24k to 144.4k. I only have six guesses as to why this could be.

Thanks for everyone's help and interest with my hardware issues. I hope this is my last post about anything related to it.

PPD proof:


Ally Mar 20, 2020 08:43 AM

Crawdaddy79, are you using a passkey?

Because your base and estimated credit look the same. With a passkey the estimated credit should be much higher based on the quick return bonus.

Therefor you should get loads more PPD

Crawdaddy79 Mar 20, 2020 09:14 AM

Good tip. After adding the passkey five minutes ago it's estimating 750k PPD and still climbing as it averages out.

That answers a number of questions I had about other peoples' scores. :lol:

DarkFoss Mar 20, 2020 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregor976 (Post 1338182613)
Why you... :D

I would've replied sooner if I hadn't locked myself out. :embarrassed:

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And thanks for your help DarkFoss.

Np Glad to help out a fellow Rager/Folder and Whovian. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crawdaddy79 (Post 1338182630)
Hey it looked like you were going to have a real chance at overtaking me until...

(Same from me @ DarkFoss.)

With DarkFoss's suggestions, I downloaded the new beta drivers. Did a clean install. Without baselining, I went ahead and selected the Power Saving preset before starting GPU folding again.

It's been going for five hours now and the GPU hasn't broken 75C. No crashes. I can't put into words the elation I feel when I come downstairs and still see my keyboard lights are still on. I see from the wattage it's pulling (165W -vs 205W) that I was not nearly as aggressive as I needed to be when I underclocked/undervolted it. Even strange is that my GPU PPD has increased by 24k to 144.4k. I only have six guesses as to why this could be.

Thanks for everyone's help and interest with my hardware issues. I hope this is my last post about anything related to it.

Sweet I'm glad that seems to have sorted things out! If you need WHQL version you may want to file a bug report so the fix gets passed into the main branch. Judging by the fah forum posters your not the only one with crash issues with the 20.2.2 driver, some even experience blackscreen/lockups with hardware acceleration enabled in their browser. Also your Vega's TPF is around 2 min 22 sec faster than my Fury with those 14xxx wu's.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ally (Post 1338182735)
Crawdaddy79, are you using a passkey?

Because your base and estimated credit look the same. With a passkey the estimated credit should be much higher based on the quick return bonus.

Therefor you should get loads more PPD

Nice catch! If you need to recover or create a new passkey can do so at the apps page.
HTML Code:

https://apps.foldingathome.org/

Crawdaddy79 Mar 20, 2020 05:36 PM

So close.... :mad:



It actually usually bounces around 920k - 950k but just noticed it at 99xxxx and got excited.

DarkFoss Mar 20, 2020 06:14 PM

The Estimated TPF of Project 14308= 27.00 secs :eek:

I know the Vega is faster than a Fiji but 6 min faster [email protected]#?!

Code:

Project: 14310 (Run 583, Clone 3, Gen 2)
18:13:02:WU00:FS01:0x21:Completed 250000 out of 25000000 steps (1%)
18:19:18:WU00:FS01:0x21:Completed 500000 out of 25000000 steps (2%)
18:25:32:WU00:FS01:0x21:Completed 750000 out of 25000000 steps (3%)
18:31:46:WU00:FS01:0x21:Completed 1000000 out of 25000000 steps (4%)

:cry:
Grats Crawdaddy79 :fold:

Hey Lupine if ya get one of these 14308's I'd like to know how much better your TPF is with your Ryzen. I think :hmm:


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