CEO who set firm's minimum wage at $70,000 hits hard times
 

No surprise that it happened honestly.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ard-times.html

All I can say is: ****ing hell, people are retarded. And no, not the business owner.

2 left because the minimum pay rise that didn't affect them made them feel less important because lower skilled workers got paid almost as much as them...

I call for internet justice to slap the crap out of those two and insure they never get paid more then anyone else.

Yeah, because heaven forbid you get paid based on your merit. I'd be pissed as well if some scrub newbie started making the same amount that I do.

Why should lower skilled, less time on the job and likely lower educated be paid the same? They shouldn't.

Just like the $15 minimum wage bullshit, employees are asking for LESS hours so they don't lose EBT. Instead of working more to make more with the increase, they're going to be working less hours, making the same and keeping bullshit benefits. Yeah, that really worked. It didn't raise them out of poverty, they're just abusing the system even more.

:lol:

^ Egos and fear, all around.

In a way, he is as well.

If you look at the business and personnel implications of his moves, and what he did, there was an expected downside that seems not to have been taken into consideration.

I applaud him for a brave decision, but there are aspects, internally, that are a little less palatable for some of the harder working employees.

For those who chose to stop doing business, THAT I don't get.

I can't imagine the accountant's health is too good.

This is the thing though:

You're working in a job. Before the pay-rise of others, you were happy, or at least content with the income you had.

Then you become aware that others are getting as much (or almost as much) as you. Now you're not happy with what you have. All because of what someone else has.

That, to me, is just stupid. If they weren't happy with their current pay before the pay-rise, they should have said something. Who knows, maybe they did and they were knocked back. They could have walked then. But to bitch about it afterwards just smacks of "Wah, Wah, Wah, I feel more superior than THOSE people so I should be getting more!" And sure, maybe their job position is more demanding, or has more responsibility. But it seems ludicrous to me to walk out on a job you already have for the reasons I've already mentioned.

Sure, but it's just human nature. If someone is getting paid the same as you when you work more hours than them and have more responsibility would you really want to work there?

Stupid CEO gets his ass handed to him. Wow, news.

Well, what about the people on a higher level than you that get paid more, but are useless driftwood? I had one supervisor on my last job that did nothing all day. The only time anyone had any actual contact with her was when she needed to discipline someone. We worked harder than she ever did (and this is not just our opinion - she spent most of her days chatting with the supervisor that eventually replaced her when she left after having a baby).

It's about time for the people who do the actual work to have a chance to get some of the money they're helping bring in. It shouldn't be just a privileged few who sit in big offices all day going "Yes, no, let's see a breakdown on that" that get all the perks.

That's called working hard and making sure you get noticed so you get a promotion. sounds like you want the salary of a higher paying position and any benefits of that position without actually doing the work to earn it.

Dave buddy, you know as well as I do that it's less how much work you do, but who you know, that gets you advancement in many, if not most, jobs. I've seen plenty of knobs in cushy jobs that did not deserve to be there simply because they were in good with the right people.

And I work 7 days a week.

No good deed goes unpunished.

Welcome to the human race. Now where's that extinction-level event button...

I got to admit, lot of technicians, including myself, got annoyed when the Quality Assurance Specialist (QAS) went from a part time $10.00 an hour job, to a full time $60,000 salary job. The QAS now gets paid more than the technicians, and all the QAS does it drive to our jobs, takes pictures of the install and check marks things on paper to determine if we followed our procedures for installations/Troubleshooting. The QAS literally goes through the same exact training for their position as a technicians does, then they are given a camera and a check sheet and told to check our work. I have been trying to become a QAS, but every technician wants that position as well, and the QAS position opens up very rarely. But really, there is no reason for the QAS to be paid more than the technicians.

People are dumb. Instead of being pleased/displeased for their own plight, they get pissy because people they view as Lesser share the same plight?

I don't even.

It's all about perception baby! And yeah, it is dumb.

One of the biggest problems was that this was announced, so everyone at the company knew what some others were making. That's a big no-no in the corporate world, most employment agreements say that you can't discuss your pay with coworkers.

Not surprised. Some one who goes to school and works hard is doing good making $70k. Then some lower level employee who never went to school or has much skills or developed analytic and critical thinking, makes $70k. If the CEO couldn't see this was going to be a problem, I'm not sure how the hell he's CEO. Our system is in place for a reason. The Matrix says if you go outside that system, things start falling apart.

The idea of bringing employee salaries up to a level that allows a perceived standard of living isn't bad, when taken on its own. The problem is (and I have personal experience with a similar situation) that employees that work harder than others, and/or those that have been there the longest get the shaft. Merit-based pay raises are the best, IMHO.

A one time bonus would have been better.

So you'd be happy for people to receive the same salary as yourself even if those people have not had to go through the education, training or dedication that you have to arrive at your current position?

It would definately annoy me. It would attract the wrong kind of employee, who is very likely to be a liability.

They were already getting paid what they are skilled for, its not like their boss raised salaries across the board and left them out. It's pretty F-ed up for an employee to demand payment based on how much more they are getting paid vs the rest of the workers even more so if they where happy with what they where being paid before hand.

btw the whole internet justice thing was sarcasm.

It might have been fairer, but it would not address the issue of raising the standard of living on a long-term basis.

This is ridiculous. You get paid on the merits of your skills and what you bring to the table. Someone doing CS all day doesn't have the same value as an engineer.

Paying everyone no matter their skill set a 70k salary will kill the moral of the harder working more deserved employees.

I said this would happen when the $15/hr minimum wage discussion came up. If suddenly "may I take your order" is worth $15/hr then that plumber or electrician that was charging $50/hr is now worth $60-70/hr or more.

Why? Because he brings more to the table. He has more value, all people are not equal. To even suggest such a thing is lunacy.

That is not the case though he didn't set everyone at a flat 70k he simply raised the minimum to 70k those already getting paid higher had no changes to their salary. It was a decent idea from the boss but it was undermined by people expecting to be paid a percentage based pay vs other employees.

Exactly the point. What motivation does someone have to work hard and go into a better paying field when their co workers are getting paid 70k to do the simple tasks of an entry level position?

I love this argument, as if earning more money doesn't appeal to everyone because of what someone else makes.