Secure Boot

deadite_9

deadite_9

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I skipped 8/8.1, and I'm still running 7 on my main PC. But I'm building a second PC and installing 10 on it. So the net result is that I have no experience with secure boot.

So I'm looking for opinions...

Should I leave it enabled, or is it better for someone who likes to tinker/change hardware around to disable it?
 
Leave it on if don't plan on using other OS. Only Win 7,8 and 10 will boot with it on.
 
0091/2 said:
Leave it on if don't plan on using other OS. Only Win 7,8 and 10 will boot with it on.
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Thanks!

This box will be Win10 only; no plans to install Linux or SteamOS. Just wasn't clear to me whether secure boot had any ramifications on a gaming machine, especially one where hardware might get changed around more than normal. But I honestly don't know if that even figures into the equation... so I thought I'd ask. Also, Google isn't being overly helpful (or more likely, I'm just not phrasing the question correctly). :D
 
Secure boot prevents Untrusted and Non-MS approved code from loading before Windows. Some Malware hide from Windows by loading before it and that what Secure boot try to prevent.
 
Secure Boot was compromised years ago (back in 2014) so it's all the same whether you use it or not.

Actually many UEFI implementations are so horribly buggy that they're almost hilarious.
 
daPhoenix said:
Secure Boot was compromised years ago (back in 2014) so it's all the same whether you use it or not.

Actually many UEFI implementations are so horribly buggy that they're almost hilarious.
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Well that's comforting. I guess I'll leave it enabled on this particular board (Z97-Pro Gamer) since there's no actual on/off switch in the UEFI... you have to go in and delete keys to disable it.

So what I'm gathering here is that there's no noticeable downside (or benefit, for that matter) since I'm not wanting to install anything other than Windows. It's just an extra "feature."
 
deadite_9 said:
Well that's comforting. I guess I'll leave it enabled on this particular board (Z97-Pro Gamer) since there's no actual on/off switch in the UEFI... you have to go in and delete keys to disable it.

So what I'm gathering here is that there's no noticeable downside (or benefit, for that matter) since I'm not wanting to install anything other than Windows. It's just an extra "feature."
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There's no Other OS option? I understand Win10 PC are shipped with it on and on/off is optional to implement. I was hoping DYI mobo give you the optional on/off switch.
daPhoenix said:
Secure Boot was compromised years ago (back in 2014) so it's all the same whether you use it or not.

Actually many UEFI implementations are so horribly buggy that they're almost hilarious.
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This is it still true now? I see a lot of Bios release note from ASUS labeled stability improvements.
 
0091/2 said:
This is it still true now? I see a lot of Bios release note from ASUS labeled stability improvements.
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Oh yeah, there was this fun thing a while back where you could wipe out and brick a UEFI motherboard with Linux because you wiped out all env vars. Hehe.

That, naturally, should not be possible at all. Asus is prolly one of the better ones, MSI and Asrock et al. are some of the worst ones.
 
0091/2 said:
There's no Other OS option? I understand Win10 PC are shipped with it on and on/off is optional to implement. I was hoping DYI mobo give you the optional on/off switch.

This is it still true now? I see a lot of Bios release note from ASUS labeled stability improvements.
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The "Other OS" option is there, but for some bizarre reason, choosing it does not disable secure boot. I really have no idea why the option is even there if it doesn't disable it. :nuts:

But according to the internet, you can disable it by deleting certain keys.

On my older board (a Rampage IV Formula), the "Other OS" switch disables it like you'd expect it to. It's also an older UEFI, and a bit clunky compared to the slick interface on the Z97. But there just simply is not a toggle for secure boot on the newer ASUS board. It only displays the current state, and changing the OS switch has no effect on it. I have no idea if this is the same with other manufacturers, as I've always been partial to ASUS. This is also my first new motherboard in nearly four years.
 
As stated earlier, if you don't need to disable it (since you don't run 10 different OS), it won't really be of any difference to your daily usage.

Just leave it on and play on.
 
daPhoenix said:
As stated earlier, if you don't need to disable it (since you don't run 10 different OS), it won't really be of any difference to your daily usage.

Just leave it on and play on.
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Yeah, you guys have convinced me it isn't worth the trouble, so I wasn't planning on disabling it at this point. Just pointing out that it's no longer a trivial thing to undo if I did need to disable it. :hmm:
 
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