what's the best 19~20in lcd money can buy?

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Like the title said, what's the best 19~20in lcd money can buy? I found a few.
SAMSUNG 940b-Black 19" 8ms LCD Monitor (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824001066)

LG L1920PQ Black-Silver 19" 8ms LCD Monitor (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824005066)
The LG monitor has better spec's, how come the samsung cost more?
BenQ FP202W Black 20.1" DVI 8ms Widescreen LCD Monitor (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824014105)
The BenQ FP202W doesn't even have 64bit drivers. Would it matter? For some reason the Display driver/CCC doesn't list the Max. res for my monitor. which is 1600x1200 but the CCC only list up to 1440x900 in the desktop area.
What do u guys recommend?

[-n7-]

NEC MultiSync 20WMGX2 (http://www.necdisplay.com/products/ProductDetail.cfm?Product=438&ClassificationFamily=2&Classification=1)

[Zero]

Depends what you mean by "best". I do some of PS work, so the best LCD for me is one with even backlighting and colour accuracy. None of the monitors above are very good in those areas.

If gaming is your main isssue, anything with a low response will do.

Personally, I'm looking at the Viewsonic VP930B for features, IQ and semi-decent response. Lately though, the Dell 2007WFP and Samsung 215TW have been looking mighty appealing.

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NEC MultiSync 20WMGX2 (http://www.necdisplay.com/products/ProductDetail.cfm?Product=438&ClassificationFamily=2&Classification=1)
Do u know any one that have it?

[-n7-]

Do u know any one that have it?

Do a brief google ;)*

That LCD has gotten incredibly good reviews from actual users.

http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3208

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Do a brief google ;)*

That LCD has gotten incredibly good reviews from actual users.

http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3208
The monitor has awesome feature but, the speaker's & T.v tuner is un-usable to me.

Do u have anything else in mind?

[ronbo613]

Depends what you mean by "best". I do some of PS work, so the best LCD for me is one with even backlighting and colour accuracy. None of the monitors above are very good in those areas.Zero is dead on. I was shopping for a 20" LCD that would be suitable for photo and video work, very tough to find one with good color rendition and anything resembling a real grayscale. You have to pick between a gaming LCD or a "work" LCD. I could not find one that had a fast response time and top notch color rendition.
I tried a Dell 2001FP. It was blindingly bright, even at the lowest settings. Backlight leakage out the wazoo. It is my understanding that now Dell is using even lower quality panels in the current models than the S-IPS panel in the 2001FP.
If I had to choose again for an all-around LCD, even though there really is no such thing, it would probably be a Samsung or NEC.

http://www.flatpanels.dk/panels.php

[Zero]

The 2007 isn't bad, if you get one without the banding issue. The one we already own has no backlight leakage and no banding, what I see on my screen is 98% what comes out on my printer and the local shops. Sadly, the odds of getting another "golden" monitor is slim to none for a while... :(

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How do u guys chose LCD? Do u look at the spec's? After look at newegg for several hour, i decided it would the LG L203WTX (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824005070)

or SAMSUNG 940b (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824001066).

Are Contrast Ratio important?

which one of the choices will u pick?

[ronbo613]

Generally, the higher the contrast ratio, the better, but that would be somewhat of a generalization. The LG has a higher resolution. Since these are widescreens, does your video card support the resolutions of these monitors?
This website - http://www.flatpanels.dk/panels.php - has this info about this LG monitor: LG L203WX (widescreen) has a 20 inch 16 ms S-IPS (LG.Philips LM201W01) panel. I don't know what the difference is between a L203WX and an L203WTX is, but that is something I would check out. If it means the panel is an 8ms TN panel, that would put it in the same ballpark as the Samsung. The Samsung has an 8ms TN panel. I would pick an S-IPS panel over a TN panel any day of the week. Normally, I would lean towards Samsung, but the LG looks like a pretty good monitor. If they both have TN panels, it looks like a typical LCD crap shoot. Which one looks better? No way to tell without seeing them.

[Zero]

try and find some review. contrast ratio is one thing, but other factors should be important (like colour accuracy, no matter what you do).

[TRD Supra]

NEC 20WMGX2 1600:1 6ms
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1043429&page=1&pp=20

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Generally, the higher the contrast ratio, the better, but that would be somewhat of a generalization. The LG has a higher resolution. Since these are widescreens, does your video card support the resolutions of these monitors?
This website - http://www.flatpanels.dk/panels.php - has this info about this LG monitor: LG L203WX (widescreen) has a 20 inch 16 ms S-IPS (LG.Philips LM201W01) panel. I don't know what the difference is between a L203WX and an L203WTX is, but that is something I would check out. If it means the panel is an 8ms TN panel, that would put it in the same ballpark as the Samsung. The Samsung has an 8ms TN panel. I would pick an S-IPS panel over a TN panel any day of the week. Normally, I would lean towards Samsung, but the LG looks like a pretty good monitor. If they both have TN panels, it looks like a typical LCD crap shoot. Which one looks better? No way to tell without seeing them.

what is this S-IPS/ TN thing talking about?

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NEC 20WMGX2 1600:1 6ms
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1043429&page=1&pp=20
The one in that forum is different it doesn't have speakers. I can't seem to find the one without it. Any way the monitor is too $.

[Fat Jez]

Have a read here (http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1039222). It will tell you about the different screen types. A few things to consider though.

1) A 19" offers nothing over a 17" in terms of resolution, it just makes the dots bigger. Both are a 1280x1024 display (unless you are talking widescreen).

2) A 20" display will either be 1600x1200 (4:3) or 1680x1050 (16:10 widescreen). The former offers more pixels, so technically could be said to be at a higher res.

I have just bought a Belinea 10 20 35 W which looks fantastic. It's the same panel as can be found in some of the Viewsonic displays. Have a read of the link I posted above and then take a look at The Widescreen Gaming Forums as mentioned above. I found a list (http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/wiki/index.php?title=Master_Monitors_List) of various monitors, the panel types and the resolutions, which may come in handy.

Cheers,
Jez

[-n7-]

Like the title said, what's the best 19~20in lcd money can buy? I found a few.
Any way the monitor is too $.

Err...:nuts:

[AGibbon]

Err...:nuts:

Maybe it was someone elses money. :)

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Err...:nuts:
I would change the title but it was too late.:bleh: The most expensive lcd monitor isn't alway the best.
I'm obvious a LCD noob. I didn't specify what i'm going to do with it.

Like Zero said Depends what you mean by "best".

I was look for user opinion on the model list and advice on what the best to them for the price.
I wondering if there is a all-round LCD photo & gaming.
ronbo613 clear that up.

So, u think i lost my sanity when i said" Any way the monitor is too $"
Sorry man, do i need to make new thread that say" the recommended me monitor is too $ in the "what's the best 19~20in lcd money can buy?" thread what can i get with $300~400? because i finally made up my mind.

or can i post alittle off the topic freely to figure out the best choice to make according to user on the same thread with being called :nuts:

Is that allow Mr.-n7-?:confused:
Could u share your thoughts on lcd i listed?please:bleh:
I could use more user opinion. Shopping for LCD it's a *****, I have worry about ghost, dead pixel, Backlight leakage.

The lcd is for movies/gaming. So, umm what can i get with $300~$400?

[ronbo613]

For gaming, I'd go with a TN panel. Faster and cheaper than the other ones. The only thing you have to think about is the good the colors look. Everybody has different standards, but for gaming you don't need the color quality of an LCD monitor with an S-IPS or S-PVA panel.
It's a lot of mumbo jumbo, but it you should be able to get a good monitor for gaming. Keep in mind you'll probably only have the thing for a year or two, so I wouldn't spend too much. The Samsung 940B or 204B(20") would probably do the job. I think I would go for a 20" screen. That big display sure is nice.
You're right, shopping for an LCD is tough. It is easier for a gaming display than an image editing screen, though. You've got that going for you, which is something.

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For gaming, I'd go with a TN panel. Faster and cheaper than the other ones. The only thing you have to think about is the good the colors look. Everybody has different standards, but for gaming you don't need the color quality of an LCD monitor with an S-IPS or S-PVA panel.
It's a lot of mumbo jumbo, but it you should be able to get a good monitor for gaming. Keep in mind you'll probably only have the thing for a year or two, so I wouldn't spend too much. The Samsung 940B or 204B(20") would probably do the job. I think I would go for a 20" screen. That big display sure is nice.
You're right, shopping for an LCD is tough. It is easier for a gaming display than an image editing screen, though. You've got that going for you, which is something.

What do u mean I'll probably only have the thing for a year or two?:hmm:
Do LCD died faster? or you're just saying that, because i'll upgrade within that time.:bleh: Then you're probably right.:D
Is it a good idea to get LCD with high Contrast ratio? With the CRT monitor i currently own, i always turn the brightness down.
If i do that with a lcd am i better of buying one with low Contrast ratio to begin with?

[ronbo613]

Computer hardware seems to become obsolete pretty quickly even though it works fine, if you know what I mean. Any monitor you buy will be fine until you decide to get another one. There's new display technology that will probably be available in the next year or two. I forget what it's called, it's just come out, somebody else can probably fill you in. I think that's why some people buying expensive LCDs(some LCDs used for graphics are like $1500) are a little sketched.
I paid $500 for the Dell 2001FP, if I didn't have to do graphics and video work, $300 or so for a nice big LCD would not be a bad deal. LCDs seem to be designed for use in a daylight-type situation. You can turn the brightness down on the monitor as well as on the video card. Using an LCD in a dark room seems to make the shortcomings like too much brightness and backlight bleeding really show up. As a general rule, higher contrast is better. Remember, contrast ratio for graphics work is important, not as critical for gaming.

[Medion]

Ok, lets split this up. If you mean standard 19" LCDs, you have a few options.

Samsung 940b is a beautiful monitor. I own 2 of them. However, they now go for $300, and they do not come with a DVI cable, only VGS. You'll need to get that seperate for an additional $15.

The ViewSonic VX922 is comparable to the 940B. It has a faster response time, but listed in GtG. It's tru response time might be slightly faster than the Samsung. It's contrast ratio is slightly worse. So why buy it over the Samsung? It's $270, and comes with both a VGA and DVI cable. It's also more elegant looking. I used one in a recent build, and overall, I can't tell the different between it and the Samsung. That's a good thing, as they're both amazing LCDs.

Now, if you want an 8-bit panel, go with a Samsung 970P. slower responswe time, but much better color reproduction. That's all I have to say about the 19" models.

[TRD Supra]

The one in that forum is different it doesn't have speakers. I can't seem to find the one without it. Any way the monitor is too $.you can take off the speakers. and its alot cuz its has a TV tuner built in and is really nice.

[Nosferatu]

you can take off the speakers. and its alot cuz its has a TV tuner built in and is really nice.
Dude, your sig is totally disgusting.

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you can take off the speakers. and its alot cuz its has a TV tuner built in and is really nice.

That's what thought! The T.V tuner&speaker is unusable to me.
1. I have 5.1 speakers and I don't i could plug in the built in one without sacrificing the 5.1 speakers.
2. T.V tuner will have bad reception. The reception hasn't improve for my T.v since 9/11. I wonder if HD T.v will be better.:confused:

Dude, your sig is totally disgusting.
:lol:

TRD Supra, your sig is fine. You manage to match color & font of the vendors of the part. How long did that take u?

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Ok, lets split this up. If you mean standard 19" LCDs, you have a few options.

Samsung 940b is a beautiful monitor. I own 2 of them. However, they now go for $300, and they do not come with a DVI cable, only VGS. You'll need to get that seperate for an additional $15.

The ViewSonic VX922 is comparable to the 940B. It has a faster response time, but listed in GtG. It's tru response time might be slightly faster than the Samsung. It's contrast ratio is slightly worse. So why buy it over the Samsung? It's $270, and comes with both a VGA and DVI cable. It's also more elegant looking. I used one in a recent build, and overall, I can't tell the different between it and the Samsung. That's a good thing, as they're both amazing LCDs.

Now, if you want an 8-bit panel, go with a Samsung 970P. slower responswe time, but much better color reproduction. That's all I have to say about the 19" models.

About color vs reponse time.... I found this LG L203WTX monitor. It has according to newegg 8ms reponse time & 16.7m color. Why does it have 8ms reponse time & 16.7m color? I thought u could either have 8ms/16.2 or 16.7 color with higer reponse time. Could the color be a typo? The official Lg site doesn't list that model nor the color display.