4870 X2 crashing

ElAguila · Nov 21, 2009, 05:08 AM

I have the setup listed in my signature. I am running 2 4870 X2's in quadfire. It has gotten to the point that if I run any game that goes into full screen mode my system will freeze up requiring a hard reboot. These can be games as graphically intensive as CoDMW 2 or simple popcap games. This didn't used to happen. I have tested the ram and cpu. The vga cards are not oc'd. I have a manual fan profile that sets the fan to 100% and the temps never go above 68C. I have a feeling one of the cards is going out on me. Is there an easy way to determine which card is the coulprit withouht taking them out one at a time? I an running Windows 7 Home Premium x64 with the latest catalyst drivers(9.11).

kn00tcn · Nov 21, 2009, 06:56 PM

what's hard about taking them out? are you able to disable a pci-e port from the mobo bios?

did this suddenly happen or slowly over time?

you could lower the OC (lower the x48's speed) & check again (even though you're stable on load, the idle period or the transition between idle & load can have a problem (i've experienced this, so has anandtech, in our case was the loadline calibration feature of the mobo))

ElAguila · Nov 21, 2009, 10:30 PM

The actual removal of them is hard. But since I have been moving just getting stuff out of the way to get my system opened is a pain. I don't know if my bios will let me disable one of the ports but that is a good idea. To be honest, I hadn't gamed for a couple of months. When I last gamed, all was well. I just started gaming again and I had this issue.

kn00tcn · Nov 21, 2009, 11:35 PM

strange, same drivers as before? same games?

ElAguila · Nov 22, 2009, 11:30 AM

After doing some more digging around I found in the windows performance an entry saying that my visual settings need to change to improve performance. When I clicked on the details it opened up the event viewer and this is the message I am getting

The Desktop Window Manager is experiencing heavy resource contention.
Scenario : The Desktop Window Manager responsiveness has degraded.

The event data says:
EventData

DisplayDeviceFriendlyNameLength 22
DisplayDeviceFriendlyName ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2
MemoryBandwidth 24134000
MemorySize 4013117440
Scenario 3

ElAguila · Nov 25, 2009, 06:46 PM

I have also noticed that the video buffer doesn't clear. Is this normal? For example, if I launch a full screen app such as half life 2 and then exit out before it crashes and then launch another full screen app a little later such as another game, I see the last screen displayed from the first app. It only shows for a second or 2.

demowhc · Nov 25, 2009, 10:35 PM

Actually I had the problem of buffer not clearing when I had 2900 crossfire but not with 4870 crossfire.. exactly as you said, when I started a game the last image from the previouse game would appear as I loaded the next game..

kn00tcn · Nov 28, 2009, 07:27 PM

last image from previous game is 'normal', been safely going on for a few months now

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33955369

Nov 21, 2009, 05:08 AM	#1	Advertisement (Guests Only) Login or Register to remove this ad
ElAguila Smokin' Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 345	4870 X2 crashing I have the setup listed in my signature. I am running 2 4870 X2's in quadfire. It has gotten to the point that if I run any game that goes into full screen mode my system will freeze up requiring a hard reboot. These can be games as graphically intensive as CoDMW 2 or simple popcap games. This didn't used to happen. I have tested the ram and cpu. The vga cards are not oc'd. I have a manual fan profile that sets the fan to 100% and the temps never go above 68C. I have a feeling one of the cards is going out on me. Is there an easy way to determine which card is the coulprit withouht taking them out one at a time? I an running Windows 7 Home Premium x64 with the latest catalyst drivers(9.11). __________________ eVGA x58 Micro Core i7 920 D0 @ 4.2GHz Corsair TR3X6G1600C8 3x2GB DDR3 1600MHz Radeon 5870 Raid 0 2x1TB WD on SATA 3/4 Seagate 160GB on SATA 1 LG Bluray ROM/DVD RW Corsair HX1000W Last edited by ElAguila : Nov 21, 2009 at 08:12 AM.

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Nov 21, 2009, 06:56 PM	#2
kn00tcn zero-zero Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,437	what's hard about taking them out? are you able to disable a pci-e port from the mobo bios? did this suddenly happen or slowly over time? you could lower the OC (lower the x48's speed) & check again (even though you're stable on load, the idle period or the transition between idle & load can have a problem (i've experienced this, so has anandtech, in our case was the loadline calibration feature of the mobo)) __________________ http://www.kn00tcn.net/site/ati-catalyst-profiles/ FPS LIMITER - run the .jar, add an fps cap to a DX8/DX9/OGL game (without vsync)

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Nov 21, 2009, 10:30 PM	#3
ElAguila Smokin' Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 345	The actual removal of them is hard. But since I have been moving just getting stuff out of the way to get my system opened is a pain. I don't know if my bios will let me disable one of the ports but that is a good idea. To be honest, I hadn't gamed for a couple of months. When I last gamed, all was well. I just started gaming again and I had this issue. __________________ eVGA x58 Micro Core i7 920 D0 @ 4.2GHz Corsair TR3X6G1600C8 3x2GB DDR3 1600MHz Radeon 5870 Raid 0 2x1TB WD on SATA 3/4 Seagate 160GB on SATA 1 LG Bluray ROM/DVD RW Corsair HX1000W

Nov 21, 2009, 11:35 PM	#4
kn00tcn zero-zero Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,437	strange, same drivers as before? same games? __________________ http://www.kn00tcn.net/site/ati-catalyst-profiles/ FPS LIMITER - run the .jar, add an fps cap to a DX8/DX9/OGL game (without vsync)

Nov 22, 2009, 11:30 AM	#5
ElAguila Smokin' Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 345	After doing some more digging around I found in the windows performance an entry saying that my visual settings need to change to improve performance. When I clicked on the details it opened up the event viewer and this is the message I am getting The Desktop Window Manager is experiencing heavy resource contention. Scenario : The Desktop Window Manager responsiveness has degraded. The event data says: EventData DisplayDeviceFriendlyNameLength 22 DisplayDeviceFriendlyName ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 MemoryBandwidth 24134000 MemorySize 4013117440 Scenario 3 __________________ eVGA x58 Micro Core i7 920 D0 @ 4.2GHz Corsair TR3X6G1600C8 3x2GB DDR3 1600MHz Radeon 5870 Raid 0 2x1TB WD on SATA 3/4 Seagate 160GB on SATA 1 LG Bluray ROM/DVD RW Corsair HX1000W

Nov 25, 2009, 06:46 PM	#6
ElAguila Smokin' Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 345	I have also noticed that the video buffer doesn't clear. Is this normal? For example, if I launch a full screen app such as half life 2 and then exit out before it crashes and then launch another full screen app a little later such as another game, I see the last screen displayed from the first app. It only shows for a second or 2. __________________ eVGA x58 Micro Core i7 920 D0 @ 4.2GHz Corsair TR3X6G1600C8 3x2GB DDR3 1600MHz Radeon 5870 Raid 0 2x1TB WD on SATA 3/4 Seagate 160GB on SATA 1 LG Bluray ROM/DVD RW Corsair HX1000W

Nov 25, 2009, 10:35 PM	#7
demowhc Rage3D Scrub Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 3,719	Actually I had the problem of buffer not clearing when I had 2900 crossfire but not with 4870 crossfire.. exactly as you said, when I started a game the last image from the previouse game would appear as I loaded the next game.. __________________ _________________________

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Nov 28, 2009, 07:27 PM	#8
kn00tcn zero-zero Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,437	last image from previous game is 'normal', been safely going on for a few months now http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33955369 __________________ http://www.kn00tcn.net/site/ati-catalyst-profiles/ FPS LIMITER - run the .jar, add an fps cap to a DX8/DX9/OGL game (without vsync)

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