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Old Nov 14, 2009, 04:09 AM   #1
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nVidia Is the gtx 260 good for playing the lastest games?

hi, im new to this site but i really want to know if the gtx 260 is any good for playing the latest games without any laggs @ high graphics settings. is 896mb enough to play any graphic intensive games? im looking forward of getting 2 of these running on sli, but im not sure if its good or not. any suggestions? i appreciate it
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Old Nov 14, 2009, 11:02 AM   #2
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For the most part yes but...... with DX11 here and games coming soon unless you can get those 260s for very cheap I say buy an ATI DX11 card (if you can find one) or wait for nV's Fermi.
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Old Nov 14, 2009, 11:06 AM   #3
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Single GTX260 is not enough for every game. Some never games with volumetric lightning, SSAO etc. require a lot of power to run with everything maxed. Examples of games that can easily drop FPS below 20 in many places: Crysis (duh who would have guessed?), Risen and STALKER: Clear Sky.
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Old Nov 14, 2009, 11:43 AM   #4
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Single GTX260 is not enough for every game.
"im looking forward of getting 2 of these running on sli"
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Old Nov 14, 2009, 02:26 PM   #5
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Risen never dropped below 45fps on my system , OC gtx 260 though
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Old Nov 14, 2009, 02:32 PM   #6
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Not in my opinion. I'm back to using my 260 GTX since my 285 died, and performance is sub-par. You will be able to play about every game, but you might have to make some sacrifices to get it consistently playable.

Borderlands, for instance, doesn't perform that well on it. Neither does DOW2, or Batman Arkham Asylum... to name a few off the top of my head.
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Old Nov 14, 2009, 02:34 PM   #7
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Risen never dropped below 45fps on my system , OC gtx 260 though
Well, I have seen it running on two computers (my and my brothers) with Palit GTX260 (same as yours) video cards and some places like the swamp in storm and with torch definitely hit the FPS. I turned off SSAO for 30-40% performance boost on my computer.
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Old Nov 14, 2009, 02:36 PM   #8
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hi, im new to this site but i really want to know if the gtx 260 is any good for playing the latest games without any laggs @ high graphics settings. is 896mb enough to play any graphic intensive games? im looking forward of getting 2 of these running on sli, but im not sure if its good or not. any suggestions? i appreciate it
Get two HD5770 instead. Or two HD5850's.
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Old Nov 14, 2009, 04:09 PM   #9
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Get two HD5770 instead. Or two HD5850's.
He wouldn't need two 5770 nor does he need that MUCH vram 512mb is already enough for what his gonna be running. Also 800mb+ of vram is already more than enough for resolutions 2560x****
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Old Nov 14, 2009, 04:58 PM   #10
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nor does he need that MUCH vram 512mb is already enough for what his gonna be running.
I don't agree with that. Anything higher than 16x12 with AA will overflow 512MB of frame buffer.
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I don't agree with that. Anything higher than 16x12 with AA will overflow 512MB of frame buffer.
Doubt he will be running that type of AA settings, max is probably 4x
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512 is the bare minimum. It can get the job done, but I wouldn't want it to. Too many games can exceed that with maximum details cranked.

Especially Oblivion and Fallout when mods enter the picture. Then there's GTA4 which even with 1GB isn't enough for everything to be turned on to the fullest. Then start throwing AA/AF on top of that and you will feel the pain.
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Old Nov 14, 2009, 07:11 PM   #13
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Doubt he will be running that type of AA settings, max is probably 4x
For nVidia card, maybe. ATi's 8x takes way less of a performance hit than nVidia's, too.

Also you can only get the HD5770's in 1GB form, so the discussion of VRAM is moot unless you look at the HD5750's.
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For nVidia card, maybe. ATi's 8x takes way less of a performance hit than nVidia's, too.

Also you can only get the HD5770's in 1GB form, so the discussion of VRAM is moot unless you look at the HD5750's.
If he were to get 2 5770 gpu's right now that would probably last him half a year or so before those cards start to choke on newer games.

EDIT: since he said he wanted to play on max settings ( not including AA )
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Whereas the GTX260's are going to choke now, because they don't support the DirectX11 features the new games will have.
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Whereas the GTX260's are going to choke now, because they don't support the DirectX11 features the new games will have.
So he either gets a single 5870, or waste money on a setup that wouldn't last long or he could wait
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honestly buying anything nvidia right now would basically be lighting money on fire.
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Old Nov 15, 2009, 09:58 AM   #19
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It comes down to money, motherboard, resolution, and PSU strength.

I've seen 260's for $100.

I currently run a GTX260, at standard clock speeds. I haven't run into any slow downs, but I only game at 1680x1050.

To your original question though, if you are buying cold and retail, then I would spend the money on a 5850. If you are buying used, then two 260's can be had for cheap if your motherboard and PSU can support them.
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honestly buying anything nvidia right now would basically be lighting money on fire.
So true.
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Old Nov 15, 2009, 11:04 AM   #21
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So true.
Why you can pick up a 260 for dirt cheap which is a sold card any way that you look at it and you wouldn't lose much money on the resale when you decide to upgrade. I wouldn't go buying two of them personally, though.

I still think that DX11 is still a ways away from being a selling point. Planing for the future is never a good idea with a pc and all of you guys know it. There are no DX11 titles on the market now and when there finally is more than a couple you will probably be able to pick up a better DX11 card than the 5870 for a comparable price.

You may have to turn down the eye candy a bit on a small handfull of games at high resolutions with AA but it will not have trouble running any game on the market now and in some cases will out perform a 4890 or a 4870x2.

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Compare XFX cards, a known good company.

GTX260
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150398 $189.99

HD 5770
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150447 $174.99

The HD 5770 has more RAM and DX11.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/g...d[2805]=on

The 5770 drivers will get better.

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Old Nov 15, 2009, 12:53 PM   #23
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Compare XFX cards, a known good company.

GTX260
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150398 $189.99

HD 5770
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150447 $174.99

The HD 5770 has more RAM and DX11.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/g...d[2805]=on

The 5770 drivers will get better.
It may have more ram but the GTX260 frame buffer is much larger. They trade blows in most games but I would like to see tests on those game where the 4870/X2 didn't perform so well like FSX, Darkplaces, Morrowind with MGE, FO3 with a bunch of mods, Oblivion with a bunch of mods, etc.

Still by the benchs that I have seen that 5770 is pretty impressive but I would never do crossfire again personally. I was very, very disappointed by the 4870x2.

Here is a used MSI GTX260 for $125 shipped and thats the first used card that I saw I'm sure that you can find one for less.

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It may have more ram but the GTX260 frame buffer is much larger. They trade blows in most games but I would like to see tests on those game where the 4870/X2 didn't perform so well like FSX, Darkplaces, Morrowind with MGE, FO3 with a bunch of mods, Oblivion with a bunch of mods, etc.

Still by the benchs that I have seen that 5770 is pretty impressive but I would never do crossfire again personally. I was very, very disappointed by the 4870x2.

Here is a used MSI GTX260 for $125 shipped and thats the first used card that I saw I'm sure that you can find one for less.
lol wut?

anyways ati has nvidia beat at every price point, theres no reason for anyone to buy anything nvidia. nvidia doesnt offer anything with any value atm. remember theres still the 4890 if u just want performance and not dx11.
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lol wut?

anyways ati has nvidia beat at every price point, theres no reason for anyone to buy anything nvidia. nvidia doesnt offer anything with any value atm. remember theres still the 4890 if u just want performance and not dx11.
I wouldn't touch the 4xxx series with a 10 foot pole after my experiences with them. I'm sorry but their drivers suck and GT200 tends to overclock better. I think that GTX260 is still very competitive at it's price point.
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if by competitive u mean slower in almost everything for the same price then i agree

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...ance/page7.asp

and thats the 216 version.

lol @ the old drivers comment. nvidia drivers are only better than atis in terms of user interface. they dont actually have less bugs. for single gpu of course.
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lol wut?

anyways ati has nvidia beat at every price point, theres no reason for anyone to buy anything nvidia. nvidia doesnt offer anything with any value atm. remember theres still the 4890 if u just want performance and not dx11.
Even with the 4890 you get DX10.1 - Nvidia makes DX10.1 parts now but they don't seem to be very powerful.
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if by competitive u mean slower in almost everything for the same price then i agree

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...ance/page7.asp

and thats the 216 version.

lol @ the old drivers comment. nvidia drivers are only better than atis in terms of user interface. they dont actually have less bugs. for single gpu of course.
Unless you have personally used the 48xx series cards and the GT200 cards how can you "lol about the driver comment"? I've said this before and I'll say it again take an older game like Morrowind, Oblivion, Darkplaces, FSX (my old 65nm 9800gtx outperformed a 4870 in FSX), Stalker (from what I've heard since I havent run this on a 4870), NWN2 etc and mod the crap out of them and you tell me how much you like those ATI drivers. Other than that based on my experience ATI's drivers are buggier than Nvidia's now. SkyMTL the video card reviewer at Hardware Cannuks recently compared ATI's drivers to playing craps, I even heard Wizzard knocking ATI's drivers not too long ago.

Also from what I saw in the review that you posted the GTX260 is pretty competitive in it's price point. I'm not sure what your comparing it to.

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Considering the OP hasn't returned yet... this argument is pretty silly.
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And you posted in a thread, over nothing. Welcome to the club.
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