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Old Dec 19, 2003, 08:09 PM   #1
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Default Does anyone have an ARCTIC COOLING VGA SILENCER?

Did a search and found some threads about people ordering one of these but there was no follow up as to whether or not this VGA cooler is any good.

http://www.arctic-cooling.com/en/products/vga_silencer/

I got feedback from another user on another forum but that's just one person. Anyone else here have this and would like to share their thoughts on it?
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Old Dec 19, 2003, 08:28 PM   #2
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I've heard alot of good things about it, and I'll probably purchase one soon.
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Old Dec 19, 2003, 10:58 PM   #3
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I got one a few days ago. Quiet, lower temperatures in the case, better overclock on the core, still testing the limits. Best part - only $22+tax Minuses - takes up one PCI slot beneath the AGP, on standard 9800 PCB does not quite reach the bracket, and it might worsen the memory overclock since it blocks the airflow above the memory chips. Oh, it also looks kinda cheap, the plastic fan seems a little fragile. My conclusion - it's a keeper.

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Old Dec 20, 2003, 10:12 AM   #4
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I picked one up in the UK at PC World, for the sum of just £10, but I haven't had time to install it yet. Another reason is I already have the Zalman heatpipe with fan fitted.

So if anyone reads this from the UK, PC World now have them. And at a price I haven't seen bested (£15) even online...Gulp!!!
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Old Dec 20, 2003, 02:01 PM   #5
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Thats a really good price, I paid £15.00 inc Delivery when they 1st came out.
Suberb product - Quiet, helps remove heat from PC, entends overclocking while still keeping the GPU cooler than alternatives and then there's the price!

If you want to squeeze the very best out if it I'd recommend getting some Arctic Silver 5 or Ceramique paste.
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Old Dec 20, 2003, 04:56 PM   #6
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I've had mine for about a week or so. It works really well IMHO. I got about 40 MHz more on my OC and it's really quiet even in the highspeed mode. The plastic cover isn't as bad as some peple say, I took it all apart when I lapped the base. It could use some color or a few LEDs though. I'm also going to be modding the cover cause it is a bit short on my 9800 pro. All in all it's a great cooler, I wouldn't trade it off, one other thing, the price is right, $22.00 plus shipping from Sycthe-usa.com.



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Old Dec 20, 2003, 05:30 PM   #7
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Awesome! Thanks for the pics.
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Old Dec 22, 2003, 02:04 PM   #8
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can anyone confirm if it is necessary to remove the shim on this cooler?
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Old Dec 22, 2003, 03:13 PM   #9
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can anyone confirm if it is necessary to remove the shim on this cooler?
I didn't have to on my 9800 pro card, it made great contact the way it was. It pretty much depends on your card. From what I've been seeing most 9800 cards are fine, it seems to be the older cards that have had the shim problem.
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Old Dec 22, 2003, 03:19 PM   #10
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Ahh crap I have a 9700 Pro
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Old Dec 22, 2003, 03:24 PM   #11
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Easiest way to check is to remove your stock cooler and take a straight edge and lay it across the GPU and shim and look to see which one is higher. Do this in several places to make sure. All 4 corners and the middle of both sides and top and bottom just to be safe.
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Old Dec 22, 2003, 05:29 PM   #12
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I used a zalman heat pipe before (not with the fan) it cools just as effectively if not better and the fan is quieter than ati's stockfan and is pretty much inaudible even on high speed. it also allowed me to acheive my greatest overclock without artifacts on my r9500 pro so far using artic silver 5 + de shimed, check sig can easy do 385 without artifacts but i am holding it back for now

i was alittle doubtfull at first.

one because it reminded me of the old dust buster leaf blower nvidias and 2. it was very cheap almost to cheap. (yeah i know but i thought there had to be a catch somewere) pc world £10

but so far i've been surprised it works well and even helps to remove hot air from the case while at the same time cooling the gpu thats a good thing. but best of all it's really quiet
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Old Dec 22, 2003, 05:40 PM   #13
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Can anyone confirm if these fit on AIW 9800's
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Old Dec 22, 2003, 05:57 PM   #14
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Nice, I was about to start my own thread after seeing the review on creative mods, and the preview of the HIS card with this cooler, but luckily my sheer laziness paid off.

You guys have definetly got me convinced. Any chance anyone has a temperature probe for some readings?
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Old Dec 22, 2003, 06:07 PM   #15
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Can anyone confirm if these fit on AIW 9800's
Version 1 of the cooler will not fit the AIW cards without a little modding. Version 2 of cooler will be out soon (if not already) that is factory made to fit. If you have a AIW card, make sure you ask if it's the correct version when you order.....
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Old Dec 22, 2003, 09:00 PM   #16
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I didn't have to on my 9800 pro card, it made great contact the way it was. It pretty much depends on your card. From what I've been seeing most 9800 cards are fine, it seems to be the older cards that have had the shim problem.
Wrong....they all have that problem.
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Old Dec 22, 2003, 10:03 PM   #17
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Quote:
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Wrong....they all have that problem.
How about explaining what you're talking about. I have the cooler and it fits and works just fine. A few facts would help your case or are you just talking.........
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Old Dec 22, 2003, 10:04 PM   #18
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Wrong....they all have that problem.
I didn't have any problem with shim either - the VGA Silencer HSF made pretty good contact with the core right off the bat without removing the shim
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Old Dec 22, 2003, 10:13 PM   #19
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I guess micron has checked every ati card out there from all makers and all of them are bad.............
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Old Dec 24, 2003, 06:47 AM   #20
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They "all" do not have "that" problem. The 9700 Pros use a thermal pad, and when you remove it, there is too much space in between without a lot of TIM. The 9800 Pro were changed because of this, so the shim is a little bit thinner. That is why ATi can mount the 9800 Pro HSF with thermal grease instead of a pad. Know wtf you are talking about before you spout...
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Old Dec 24, 2003, 04:16 PM   #21
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Quote:
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They "all" do not have "that" problem. The 9700 Pros use a thermal pad, and when you remove it, there is too much space in between without a lot of TIM. The 9800 Pro were changed because of this, so the shim is a little bit thinner. That is why ATi can mount the 9800 Pro HSF with thermal grease instead of a pad. Know wtf you are talking about before you spout...
I kinda suspected that from the posts around here, but I did not have a 9700 to know for sure. Besides, the 9800 is clocked higher, and that could be attributed partly to a better cooling solution (ie, smaller gap b/n cooler and the core)
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Old Dec 30, 2003, 09:51 AM   #22
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does this fit 9800XT?
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Old Dec 30, 2003, 12:51 PM   #23
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heres a pic from there specs it will not fit on AIW or XT


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Old Dec 30, 2003, 05:27 PM   #24
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hi guys,

the last days i spent with modding and experimenting with my Sapphire 9800NP (Samsung 3,3ns) which i flashed to a Pro. With the stock HSF i hardly got 400 core (mem is at 360 right now and possible goes much higher) - but the core is my issue. Soem appz (rthdribl !) already showed artifacts at over 395 core - and i use rthdribl as my OC reference.

Ok..first i bought a 50mm 20cfm fan and replaced the original fan and mounted the new fan on the HSF. I only 'gained' maybe 3mhz or so....at the cost of horrible noise.....two days later i put the original fan in again because i couldnt stand the fan noise and the whole case was vibrating with that fan on... :P

So...yesterday my VGA silencer came from SVC and i spent like 90mins modding my card and putting the silencer on.
Most nerve wrecking was using a plier to push the two original mounts through the PCB - but finally i got it without scratching the PCB.
Then i was debating whether i should remove the shim or not.
I cam to the conclusion that i want to remove the shim.

Another nerve wrecking few minutes went by using a razor blade..but i couldnt pop the thing off..and it looked hell dangerous close to some tiny circuits near the GPU !
I took some very tiny screwdriver and lifted the shim up with the blade and finally the shim poped off with the help of the screwdriver !!! PHEW !!! Definetly not recommended...i dont wanna know how many people already destroyed their cards with such mods...

I cleaned the core of all the gunk and was surprised hwo shiny and nice it looked once all the old goo was removed.
I applied a layer of AS which i had laying around. (Didn't want to use the silicone stuff which comes with the silencer)

Ok..then i could finally start with the actual mounting of the VGA silencer which was a total breeze....

But to make it short...i gained only like 12 mhz or so for rthdribl...now i can run at 405 without any artifacts but it wont go any higher. Other apps/games work better...i tested up top 425 and didnt see any artifacts. But since rthdribl is my reference my final OC is only about 12 or mhz more.

I think i have either a bad core or ineed some volt modding (which i wont do).

Anyway..the VGA silencer works great otherwise, very, very quiet...i dont hear a difference between the 'low' setting and 'high'..and it also looks very great and professional ! The stock HSF in comparison looks like a piece of garbage !

Ok..just wanted to let you know what results i got with the silencer..others may get better OC results, may depend on the voltage regulator on board or maybe if someone has a better core than i have.

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Old Dec 30, 2003, 06:24 PM   #25
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I got one of these on the way right now. With stock cooling I can reach 345 core before I get artifacts and 324 memory before artifacts, so I just leave it at 330/317. I'l be sure to post back my opinions and results after I install the VGA Silencer.
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Old Dec 30, 2003, 07:00 PM   #26
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flexy,
do you have AA turned off when you use rthdribl? because when i use rthdribl at stock speeds with AA turned on i get artifacts and none withh AA off! IMHO i think this is not a good program to use for testing!(I've tried it several times and i dont believe the program it self is a respectable program to use for testing-LOW END THIRDPARTY!)

Here my list of good ways to check for artifacts in all areas!
1.D3D-3dMark03-Trolls layer, at default settings in Display Props!

2.OpenGL-SOF2,very good game to use for testing OpenGL! (default settings in Display Props and then highest settings will show you if mems is to high and over heating )

3.Test everything!

Once you think you think you've reached you're max, turn all you're settings to the highest in Display Props and games,then see what happens!

AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ALREADY OWN A ZALMAN HP, DONT BLOW IT UP YET!

stick a PCI slot fan directly under the HP and a braket fan across the HP! (ZM80C-HP not needed)
This will give you you're best cooling for air cooled and you're mem will be quite cool with out ramsinks.

I'm not Knocking this product, I've just wasted to much $$$ trying all the new gadgets and ZALMAN has worked the best!
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Old Dec 30, 2003, 07:12 PM   #27
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OBTW, yes I've tried this product also and it's not bad, but ZALMAN has given the best results!
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Old Dec 30, 2003, 07:12 PM   #28
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I purchased one of these recently for my 9700NP.

Let me tell you, I am very impressed. At the moment I'm running about 83*F on stock clocks on high, and I have no problem running at 390 core stable. The cooler is not loud at all, and I could not notice a diffrence in noise on high. I'll do some V-Modding very soon and I'll let ya know how it does.

P.S. Installation was real easy, if you can read and follow easy directions....then you can do this.

Oh yea, I really like the holding mechanism. The holder on the back is screwed into the cooler, and puts pressure directly on the back of the core.
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Old Dec 30, 2003, 08:45 PM   #29
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For those of you that popped your shims off, how difficult was the procedure? I used a straightedge (credit card) to check the clearance of my GPU and shim and the GPU sat a bit higher, although it wasn't much.

I have a feeling I need to pull the card out and remove the shim to ensure proper contact between the cooler and the chip because my 9700Pro doesn't like to overclock. I'm using Omega's latest drivers based on the ATI 3.10 drivers and I get artifacting at 371/317 and that isn't pushing the card very hard, is it?
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For me, taking the shim off was fairly easy.

Just get ya a razor blade or real small screwdriver( I used a razor blade ) And get underneath one of the corners and twist.

Be careful when you get the shim higher off, you'll want to go farther in and pry( Don't do it, you could rip off one of the tiny resistors on the core ).

After I got one side loosened, I moved to another side. A quick little pry and it popped off.



As far as a good OC goes; it depends on your case temp, if you've got a good card, or if you have a good power supply.
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